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	<title>Comments on: Renee Hetherington flunks the civility test</title>
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	<description>Green Party federal councilor. Vegan for life. Political junkie. Law student.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-5996</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth May didn&#039;t call Harper a fraud. She called out his climate change plan as fraudulent. The other opposition leaders backed her up on that statement as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth May didn&#8217;t call Harper a fraud. She called out his climate change plan as fraudulent. The other opposition leaders backed her up on that statement as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander William</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point seems to be that hat not everyone is welcoming Elizabeth May with open arms on the west coast.  What about her pledge to run if a byelection was called in a promising riding elsewhere?  The seat vacated by Bill Casey would appear to be a very appealing proposition.  The anti-Conservative sentiment is strong and there is a wave of &quot;green support&quot; in our part of Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point seems to be that hat not everyone is welcoming Elizabeth May with open arms on the west coast.  What about her pledge to run if a byelection was called in a promising riding elsewhere?  The seat vacated by Bill Casey would appear to be a very appealing proposition.  The anti-Conservative sentiment is strong and there is a wave of &#8220;green support&#8221; in our part of Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth May: &#34;Sad Little Sprout&#34;? I think not&#8230; : Canadian Election 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth May: &#34;Sad Little Sprout&#34;? I think not&#8230; : Canadian Election 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just finished reading GPC Federal Councillor Camille Labchuk&#8217;s excellent blogpost regarding a news release from Renee Hetherington, the recently nominated Liberal Candidate for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just finished reading GPC Federal Councillor Camille Labchuk&#8217;s excellent blogpost regarding a news release from Renee Hetherington, the recently nominated Liberal Candidate for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez. Talk about small potatoes.

And IF this appears above the radar in SGI, then you will have helped Heaterington and the Liberal message get noticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez. Talk about small potatoes.</p>
<p>And IF this appears above the radar in SGI, then you will have helped Heaterington and the Liberal message get noticed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Silent Majority</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>The Silent Majority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those (apparently most who comment/blog here) who are too young to know, Little Green Sprout was the other character in the Jolly Green Giant commercials. A much more liked character, I might add.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8SD5m2pywk&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those (apparently most who comment/blog here) who are too young to know, Little Green Sprout was the other character in the Jolly Green Giant commercials. A much more liked character, I might add.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8SD5m2pywk&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8SD5m2pywk&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camille, I&#039;m not arguing the legitimacy of Harper&#039;s climate plan.  If the majority of Canadians had the technical understanding of climate change, we&#039;d have a lot more Green MPs.  Seeing that 93.3% of Canadians didn&#039;t vote for the Green Party in the last election, it would be safe to assume that most saw Elizabeth calling the Prime Minister a fraud (in both Official languages).  

Perception is reality and name calling is still name calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camille, I&#8217;m not arguing the legitimacy of Harper&#8217;s climate plan.  If the majority of Canadians had the technical understanding of climate change, we&#8217;d have a lot more Green MPs.  Seeing that 93.3% of Canadians didn&#8217;t vote for the Green Party in the last election, it would be safe to assume that most saw Elizabeth calling the Prime Minister a fraud (in both Official languages).  </p>
<p>Perception is reality and name calling is still name calling.</p>
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		<title>By: Wise Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a SGI resident I can tell all you Green hopefuls that with the exception of a few &quot;hemp lovers&quot; on Salt Spring Island, Ms May hasn&#039;t a hope in hell of winning here.  The incumbent, Gary Lund has been a remarkable MP.  He delivered on relief to JDS Uniphase workers (after years of unfulfilled promises by the Liberals).  If May wants a &quot;green&quot; issue she would gain a lot of support by campaigning against the ugly billboards on native land that are an eyesore that everyone is afraid to oppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a SGI resident I can tell all you Green hopefuls that with the exception of a few &#8220;hemp lovers&#8221; on Salt Spring Island, Ms May hasn&#8217;t a hope in hell of winning here.  The incumbent, Gary Lund has been a remarkable MP.  He delivered on relief to JDS Uniphase workers (after years of unfulfilled promises by the Liberals).  If May wants a &#8220;green&#8221; issue she would gain a lot of support by campaigning against the ugly billboards on native land that are an eyesore that everyone is afraid to oppose.</p>
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		<title>By: The Silent Majority</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>The Silent Majority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camille, once again you do not know what you are talking about. When you state: &quot;Emissions intensity target do not accomplish absolute reductions in GHGs.&quot; this is in fact a fraudulent statement.

CAFE standards for vehicles (mpg or litres/100 km) ARE intensity targets.

Efficiency standards for appliances (kw-hr per yr) ARE intensity targets.

Insulating your house or replacing windows to reduce heating energy are, in effect INTENSITY targets.

In other words, if you keep increasing the number of cars on the road, and the population continues to grow through natural means enhanced by immigration, the total energy used will continue to grow from these examples.

Intensity targets are only a political issue if the rate of growth of a particular entity (oil sands are the blacksheep here) exceeds the rate of decline of the intensity target. Ie if you reduce energy use by 20% per unit, but increase production more than 20% it is a net increase. However, if the intensity targets become more stringent overtime, the total emissions can be forced to decline.

So, you can&#039;t just blatantly exclude intensity targets - they are everywhere, just called something else. 

You have demonstrated, like many others, that you are ignorant of what intensity targets are, and how they can be used to reduce overall emissions. In other words, you yourself are a fraud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camille, once again you do not know what you are talking about. When you state: &#8220;Emissions intensity target do not accomplish absolute reductions in GHGs.&#8221; this is in fact a fraudulent statement.</p>
<p>CAFE standards for vehicles (mpg or litres/100 km) ARE intensity targets.</p>
<p>Efficiency standards for appliances (kw-hr per yr) ARE intensity targets.</p>
<p>Insulating your house or replacing windows to reduce heating energy are, in effect INTENSITY targets.</p>
<p>In other words, if you keep increasing the number of cars on the road, and the population continues to grow through natural means enhanced by immigration, the total energy used will continue to grow from these examples.</p>
<p>Intensity targets are only a political issue if the rate of growth of a particular entity (oil sands are the blacksheep here) exceeds the rate of decline of the intensity target. Ie if you reduce energy use by 20% per unit, but increase production more than 20% it is a net increase. However, if the intensity targets become more stringent overtime, the total emissions can be forced to decline.</p>
<p>So, you can&#8217;t just blatantly exclude intensity targets &#8211; they are everywhere, just called something else. </p>
<p>You have demonstrated, like many others, that you are ignorant of what intensity targets are, and how they can be used to reduce overall emissions. In other words, you yourself are a fraud!</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Camille Labchuk » Renee Hetherington flunks the civility test -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Camille Labchuk » Renee Hetherington flunks the civility test -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Camille Labchuk, loupnoir and Elizabeth Berman. Elizabeth Berman said: RT @CanadianGreens Fail! http://bit.ly/6UZWV [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Camille Labchuk, loupnoir and Elizabeth Berman. Elizabeth Berman said: RT @CanadianGreens Fail! <a href="http://bit.ly/6UZWV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/6UZWV</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Camille Labchuk</title>
		<link>http://www.camillelabchuk.ca/2009/10/01/renee-hetherington-flunks-the-civility-test/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille Labchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fraudulence of the PM&#039;s climate policy is a verifiable fact. Emissions intensity target do not accomplish absolute reductions in GHGs. It is fraudulent to sell emissions intensity targets as a way of reducing GHGs. Pointing this out is a legitimate policy criticism, and not name calling. 

This situation is not even remotely analogous to Hetherington&#039;s use of the term &quot;sad little sprout&quot;, which is very much name calling. This statement is not based on policy or ideas, and is a prime example of the type of mud slinging politics that drives Canadians away from voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fraudulence of the PM&#8217;s climate policy is a verifiable fact. Emissions intensity target do not accomplish absolute reductions in GHGs. It is fraudulent to sell emissions intensity targets as a way of reducing GHGs. Pointing this out is a legitimate policy criticism, and not name calling. </p>
<p>This situation is not even remotely analogous to Hetherington&#8217;s use of the term &#8220;sad little sprout&#8221;, which is very much name calling. This statement is not based on policy or ideas, and is a prime example of the type of mud slinging politics that drives Canadians away from voting.</p>
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